tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post8301185877066280137..comments2024-02-19T07:24:42.397-08:00Comments on Anglican Curmudgeon: Of Bishops and BoundariesA. S. Haleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05108498446058643166noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-71361775990025388002008-05-19T13:19:00.000-07:002008-05-19T13:19:00.000-07:00Cany, thanks for pointing out anything that’s uncl...Cany, thanks for pointing out anything that’s unclear. I want to be <I>very</I> clear: We <B>all</B> are sinners, and yes, because we all are sinners, we have no “civil rights” <B>before God</B>. Kolakowski’s book says it best: <I>God Owes Us Nothing!</I> People have civil rights in the context of their societies, and can demand them of their political leaders by marching and demonstrating, and even by getting arrested. But you can’t persuade God to grant you anything by marching and demonstrating, and (unless you are St. Paul, maybe) He won’t get you out of jail if you are arrested. Nor, at the final judgment, will you be able to demand "a trial by your peers." <BR/><BR/>So I’m not saying that we church members have no civil rights, it’s just that neither we (nor anyone else) has them <B>before God</B>.A. S. Haleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108498446058643166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-81755831935642660012008-05-19T12:55:00.000-07:002008-05-19T12:55:00.000-07:00Sinners have no civil rights?Not only do I not agr...Sinners have no civil rights?<BR/><BR/>Not only do I not agree with the calling of sin (in context), but they DO have civil rights. Accused are guaranteed a trial by their peers, for instance.<BR/><BR/>If not this, then what kind of "civil rights", exactly, are you speaking of?Canyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737285360280766111noreply@blogger.com