tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post361963059761672492..comments2024-02-19T07:24:42.397-08:00Comments on Anglican Curmudgeon: Does Obamacare Negate Its Own Insurance?A. S. Haleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05108498446058643166noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-55787855951898784162012-03-01T12:51:03.790-08:002012-03-01T12:51:03.790-08:00I think Rick Allen makes some good points, though ...I think Rick Allen makes some good points, though I am on the far other side of the argument. I view insurance laws as a whole as anti-freedom. Am I against insurance - no, but it should be a choice for the individual. <br /><br />Rick is also right in saying that we have been going down this road for 3 generations. I would argue that it is 3 generations that have failed to see where their path leads, and that the current crop of freedom limitation is predictable. <br /><br />I look forward to the generation that reverses this insanity in all areas (not just health care / insurance) and actually allows people to live lives without regular and systematic government intervention.RMBIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18119704720010975657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-84875895698836346772012-03-01T10:33:21.419-08:002012-03-01T10:33:21.419-08:00Very interesting. I like that the video was very s...Very interesting. I like that the video was very short and explained in simple language that many can understand- no legalese.One daughter's perspectivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02785443019606262860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-58587232927340843162012-03-01T07:55:26.498-08:002012-03-01T07:55:26.498-08:00"...if the government can make you buy health..."...if the government can make you buy health insurance they can make you buy the environmentally friendly car, they can make you buy only "healthy" food."<br /><br />Bill, it seems to me it already does. There are environmental standards for cars sold. There are purity and labeling requirements for food.<br /><br />I myself think these things good. I understand how others disagree. But my point to Mr. Haley, and to you, is that we have been going down this road for three generations, and the principles objected to, if found unconstitutional, would have a much more extensive scope that the president's health care legislation.rick allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612435616018593956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-23311158786542520092012-02-29T08:27:54.458-08:002012-02-29T08:27:54.458-08:00In some jurisdictions, the only thing needed for l...In some jurisdictions, the only thing needed for liability is proof of a bond that will cover the minimum set amount of liability.<br /><br />As to the basic idea embodied here, I think this must be the first documented introduction into the argument; however, I have heard/read the same effective sentiment expressed that if the government can make you buy health insurance they can make you buy the environmentally friendly car, they can make you buy only "healthy" food, they can make you buy ... well anything that is the whim of the zietgiest.BillBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593147581583316765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-80968928705561210662012-02-28T15:33:41.155-08:002012-02-28T15:33:41.155-08:00Dear Mr. Haley,
Is this development not but the m...Dear Mr. Haley,<br /><br />Is this development not but the most recent, and most transparent to date, consequence of our having ignored the fundamental difference between law and legislation? The legal profession has been gradually indoctrinated so as to accept that any statute adopted according to the procedures required of the legislature is to be considered as of the same genus as the laws given by God and, by virtue of the latter's origins, equally applicable to us all. I know that there is terminology to distinguish between the natural law and legislation, but I am reluctant to attempt its use lest I recall it incorrectly. <br /><br />Ultimately, it comes down to an abandonment of what we all once understood as the natural law in favor of man-made laws, <i>i.e.</i>, legislation.<br /><br /><i>Pax et bonum</i>,<br />Keith TöpferMartial Artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11679584221923893460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-66534440944267612612012-02-28T13:35:05.744-08:002012-02-28T13:35:05.744-08:00All good questions, Rick Allen. Let me see if they...All good questions, Rick Allen. Let me see if they sink the argument.<br /><br />Laws requiring us to carry liability insurance are part of the privilege of registering a car that <i>is driven on public roads.</i> If your vehicle does not drive on public roads, you do not have to purchase liability insurance (nor do you have to register it).<br /><br />Likewise, laws requiring professionals to carry liability insurance (as here in California) are part of the privilege of being granted a license to practice that profession. If you are not going to have any clients, but just want to practice the profession academically, you don't need to purchase the insurance.<br /><br />Same with businesses -- in general, if your business needs a license from the government in order to operate, the government can condition the privilege of such a license on your carrying certain insurance.<br /><br />I am not familiar with the reinsurance laws you mention. However, insurance companies are a classic form of a business which needs to register with the state and obtain permission to engage in operations in that state, so I imagine the same analysis applies there, as well.<br /><br />In contrast, with Obamacare, the requirement is not imposed because you seek a privilege from the government in order to engage in business, or drive a car, etc. It is imposed on you just by virtue of your being an adult citizen. At least this far, at any rate, one is not yet required to get a license in order to become an adult citizen. (But I admit that if Obamacare stands, we are only a step or so away from such a requirement.)A. S. Haleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05108498446058643166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-759178030677978044.post-36872701476321377702012-02-28T12:17:41.190-08:002012-02-28T12:17:41.190-08:00What about the laws that require us to carry liabi...What about the laws that require us to carry liability insurance? Are they no good as well?<br /><br />Or those laws requiring insurance companies to re-insure?<br /><br />Or a law (in force, I understand, in some jurisdictions) requiring lawyers to carry professional liablity insurance, or business owners to carry some degree of business premises liability insurance? All no good?<br /><br />I'm not carping, just asking, how far does this argument take one?rick allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612435616018593956noreply@blogger.com