G.R. Mead:[G.R. Mead]: ... if the Resurrection is not real then we are, of all men, the most to be pitied.
[zuch]: How about “laughed at”? Would that be more pleasant for you?
In honored tradition — please be my guest.
What do you find funny? Or does your plan work out better ?
My “plan”, such as it is [or isn’t, as the case may be], works out better than yours, wasting your affections and efforts (and probably money) on some fictitious sky pixie. Why I should pity you when you voluntarily choose such behaviour is beyond me. If there is no Resurrection, no skin off my nose.
G.R. Mead: This is what it comes to. You have not actually faced the reality of a conviction that there is nothing, then an accidental existence, and then nothing. Neitszche did — and look how he turned out. In a world that is thus — there is no reason, literally, no rational basis — to do anything but take any risk, do any harm to others, that may be necessary to find maximum pleasure in this life. Oh sure, maybe you have some hormonal surges evolution programmed to trick you into maximizing fitness as a social group — but that just some illusion bred by your blind and selfish genes of which you are the mere tool. If you are rational you should rise above all of that an consider reality in its true face. Blackness then a flash of awareness and then the black and nothing else. Get what you can — while you can.
You’re not only a philosopher par extraordinaire, you’re a geenyus and a mind-reader as well. I fart in your general direction.
Why you think I have not faced your own personal daemons is beyond me. They’re your boogeymen, and I think you ought to deal with them yourself and not insist that I need to do this, so that you can feel that you’re not so much the scared little man that you are.
And you seem to think that I must either follow the dictates of [your] religion, or else be a totally amoral person. Why you think this is beyond me. You seem to think that an atheist must ‘logically’ indulge in hedonism, nihilism, and selfishness. Not so. But ‘logically’, you as a religionist must put homosexuals and sassy kids to death, kill the entirety of the menfolk in other tribes and rape their women, turn your wife out of the house and city if she’s menstruating, offer to kill your own son if asked by ‘sufficient authority’, and any number of things that I find personally appalling from a moral perspective. Other religions think that killing infidels is a grand thing. That’s the ‘morals’ that you have chosen. Thanks but no thanks.
And if you want to insist your genes make you do things, go for it. But isn’t that blasphemy?
A good example is the best sermon.